At times, one would pull the other back from the brink. I lay in--laid there in bed a couple of times and thought, If I just kill her, Zachary will be safe. Shirley asked them to take custody of Zachary while she was gone. Having watched the documentary about this case, I really needed to read this book. KATE: And so she said, `Oh, take him and get him dressed,' to me. would now have to be something else, a visual letter to Andrew's baby. He says he would blunt his emotions, shut them off, and concentrate on the baby. Lifes ability to hand us the unbearable is matched only by the ability of the human spirit to somehow handle it. The workers notes say Turner spent most of the time talking about a planned interview with CBSs 48 Hours. The TV news magazine would give her a chance to tell her side of the story. We. See rank. Kate and David were robbed of their son and grandson, and the world was robbed of a great Dr. and person. Shirley. They were forced to hand Zachary back to Turner and, again, tiptoe around her. Turner was twice divorced and one of her last three noteworthy partners was murdered, another was living in fear of her in Pennsylvania and the third was complaining to police that Dr. Turner had harassed him.. HEATHER: I was so excited that he was dating somebody. March 17, 2007 at 7:39 p.m. Kate and David Bagby knew exactly what they were going to do. Change is slow. In the, tribute documentary their son's best friend Kurt Kuenne was making to someday, give Zachary, the Bagbys' friends recount how difficult it was for David and. I said, `Oh, no. Elsewhere in St. Johns, T.J. Shears, who first reported his mother and Zachary missing, was suffering his own devastation. There was a problem loading your book clubs. I said, `Do not meet her in private.' It's just as heartbreaking as the documentary "Dear Zachary", which I HIGHLY recommend watching. MORRISON: Shirley also claimed to have been at home in Iowa, sick in bed the day of the murder. It's great. MORRISON: A couple of hours later, there was another knock at the, Mr. BAGBY: Told us what happened. I have to tell you that Andrew is dead. Shirley. KATE: I thought, `Well, he's got to get out of this.'. Sheers asked Turner to move out, which she did, but not before selling his computer and taking his camcorder with her. What if she is backed in a. corner? They had tapped into their retirement accounts to get by. The title of the documentary, "Dear Zachary" jumped out at me because I have a son named Zachary. In the wake of the shocking turn of events, Andrew's father, David Bagby, wrote a true crime memoir that is described as "a eulogy for a dead son, an elegy for lives cut tragically short, and a castigation of a broken system.". By 6 p.m. she left for Keystone State Park, where she and Andrew had agreed to meet after his hospital shift. The next, hearing in the extradition process was set for September, at which time they. Zachary ends up killed by his wicked mother to spite his family and the Canadian courts, while also getting away with murdering his father. I cried all the way reading this, and also while watching the documentary. But after a year of trying unsuccessfully to have a baby, Kate started using fertility drugs. Not always.. killed herself and Zachary in a murder-suicide. Zachary was learning some words well, words he understood that Kate and David were sure they understood, too. I was just gone. MORRISON: Coming up, Andrew dead. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) This is Shirley Turner, yes. (Canadian flags; Newfoundland; lake and coast; man in coat; photos of Shirley, and Zachary; Kate, David and Zachary; Shirley, Kate and Zachary; Supreme Court, building; photos of David, Kate, Zachary and Shirley), Mr. BAGBY: Dealing with Turner was like, I don't know, walking around with. It looked like an open-and-shut case but, before the police could arrest her, Turner fled over the Canadian border, back home to St John's, in Newfoundland. Temptation Island: What Happened To Casey & Ashley After Season 2? Shirley, held his birthday party at McDonald's. I just finishes the book, and for a first-time writer I thought the writing was excellent. I can only imagine this book to be heartbreaking. KATE: You were always afraid that she was going to find something. That they survived such horrible adversity is a testament to their courage, resolve and love. We also may change the frequency you receive our emails from us in order to keep you up to date and give you the best relevant information possible. The Bagbys couldn't have been happier, particularly since. While the offense with which she is charged is a violent and serious one, the court ruled, it was not directed at the public at large., On Jan. 10, David says, we had to give Zachary back to her.. For three seasons now, Temptation Island has been a social experiment to see if long-term couples are able to fix their broken relationships by going on an island full of attractive singles. I wanted to read this book because I saw a snippet on MSNBC or one of those late night shows, (about the last 7-10 minutes of the show) that was actually the television version of what had taken place back in 2001. We couldn't let the authorities who let this happen get away with it. Since their son was murdered in 2001 and their year-old grandchild was killed in Newfoundland in 2003,the California couple hasn't bothered decking the halls, but now they're celebrating alegal victory in the case. But something kept me going, and. Cpl. Kurt's film, meanwhile, was released last year and hailed in the US as one of 2008's most moving documentaries. Just like Andrew, you know, happy. They have a mission to bring change from tragedy. This is an amazing true story that waswell, not conveyed with the same fiery delivery seen in the film "Dear Zachary". Book details an absolute tragedy in the Canadian justice system. Privacy Policy. Content-wise, this Is exactly what I wanted and more. The rest of the documentary describes the fallout of Zachary's death, but for his family and for the judicial system. And this book was okay. Shes Kate Bagby from Sunnyvale, she explains. By Mike Cassidy | Bay Area News Group. That word closure? Andrew Bagby, who never knew Turner was pregnant, was the father. HEATHER: You are the most amazing, strongest people I've ever. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) I know you don't want to, you don't intend to. MORRISON: Ah, but there was a lot to say about Andrew. Mr. SIMPSON: Andrew, you know you can do a lot better. There won't be any question about whether she can hurt, MORRISON: Coming up, as David Bagby wrestles with these terrible. She was placed on suicide watch after intake screening. I may be in Fantasyland. The documentary was also made with the intention of being given to Andrew's son Zachary to explain the full story of his family. The watch was continued after a more comprehensive psychological exam. GARDNER: (Audio recording) I'm interested in the gun. So we called, and he came over and told us that Zachary and Shirley were. David expresses his intense rage and his intense patience with Turner superbly. "The birth of Zachary gave us part of Andrew back," says Kate. May give you a new appreciation for being an American. What do you want it Mr. BAGBY: Very seriously. They moved to Newfoundland to give the legal battle their full attention but Turner remained at large. They drowned Aug. 18, 2003, in what was ruled a murder-suicide. With Shirley Turner out of jail it was time for the Bagbys to clench their teeth again. First she killed Andrew Bagby. Initially, Andrew's close friend Kurt Kuenne, a filmmaker, intended the film as a personal memorial and scrapbook so that Zachary could know the kind of person his father was. Zachary's life, even talking to her eldest son and his girlfriend about it. Absolutely riveting.i couldn't put it down, and was completely draw in and addicted. The Bagbys hoping to gain custody of Zachary moved to Newfoundland and began a long, drawn-out battle in court and with Canadian social services to protect their grandson from the woman who had almost certainly murdered their son. In 2006, the press was there again to cover the issuance of a report on the death of, (Newspaper article; David on TV show being interviewed; Confederation, Unidentified Reporter: (Newscast) The government has received a scathing. They would go to Pennsylvania to collect the body and belongings of their only child. Turner had not finished with the family yet. I, was like, `Hi, buddy.' I had two sisters already, so a brother, because now I'd have somebody that I can teach about hockey and, (Shears and Zachary; photo of Shears and Zachary). He, consumed by anger. I said, `When do you think you'll be done?' (Kate and Zachary; judge in court; Shirley being escorted from court), Mr. KUENNE: I don't know. I would really like for you and Kate. Now, she sucked us in here, too. Mr. KUENNE: (Kate holding Zachary) Hello, bud. of a woman and a baby on the beach, and I lost it again. (Supreme Court building; Shirley being escorted from court; photos of Kate and. She landed a residency at a hospital in Iowa, several states away but still close enough to allow occasional weekends with Andrew in Pennsylvania. They did their best to keep their dark feelings about their son's accused. Andrew Bagby, 28, was their light, their love, their boy. He has clearly done his research of the law and proposes many ways that this type of tragic event could be prevented in the future. How could Kate Bagby from Sunnyvale have anything to do with murder? MORRISON: What was it like to hear that she was going to get out of prison? GARDNER: (Audio recording) I understand that. At some point, police say, Turner tied the arms of her jacket together to lash Zachary to her as she walked carrying him. The Turner report says their relationship soon deteriorated. Mr. KUENNE: He liked playing bad guys a lot. Customer Reviews, including Product Star Ratings help customers to learn more about the product and decide whether it is the right product for them. MORRISON: How'd you feel about having a much younger brother come, Mr. SHEARS: I thought it was great. But did they manage to make it through the separation unscathed? Even before the ultimate tragic end,I strongly felt that it was a crime within itself that that woman had that defenceless child. Was she lying? Family and friends go to extraordinary lengths to honor a legacy of a young man whose trust led to tragedy. Everyone could see how far off the deep end Shirley Turner was, including the very justice system that continued to set her free and place an innocent child in her arms. Reviewed in the United Kingdom on January 31, 2022, Great story with a big shocker i didnt see coming. MORRISON: The girl was Heather, also an aspiring doctor. Now armed with a powerful tool, "Dear Zachary: A Letter, to a Son about his Father," the tribute film Kurt Kuenne started making, first. But that is what the Bagbys. Fans guessed from the beginning that the couple would not make it off ofTemptation Islandtogether, and they were right. We don't--we don't gush very much. The worst part for me was that Shirley cheated everyone out of seeing justice done. kind of panic sets in, I guess. I was like, `Oh, OK, yeah.' MORRISON: Andrew Bagby. I tried to console them, Snow says. There is only so much that Kurt could fit in an hour and a half and I learned so much more by reading things from David's own words. 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