CINDY: Yeah. FLOTHE: How did he get in? Wonderful tram tour guide Cindy is starting her fourth year as a trail tram tour driver for MCRF. So, just the fact that I put myself in this situation, in this character, to go through these emotions and make myself feel all that I felt is an interesting thing psychology-wise. When I read it, I saw it as a character development project, but seeing it overall pulled it all in together. He died in prison last month aged 75. Couple find note in chimney that reveals their 290,000 house was 100 times cheaper 50 years ago. Why not be the first to send us your thoughts, The only thing which he ever seemed to truly succeed in, the one thing which others commended him for, were his exceptional hunting skills. FLOTHE: Was it this one here is called like a checkered grip. CINDY: Nope. 10,285 views Aug 26, 2013 In an up close interview, former Disney sweetheart Vanessa Hudgens shares her admiration towards serial killer Robert Hansen's surviving victim Cindy Paulson .more. Hansen said that victim is the woman known to police as Eklutna Annie, a roughly 20-year-old brunette whose body was discovered in 1980 by electric workers repairing a power line outside Eagle River. View the profiles of people named Cindy Paulson. Vanessa Hudgens: I was a little bit shaken up that this guy who was well respected in the neighborhood and everyone knew as the family man could have done such atrocious and heinous crimes. You know, like mine is. You rarely see mention of them, other than the fact that they existed, and I read through multiple articles before I even spotted Mrs. Hansens first name. There are so many different genres out there to do, so many different characters to play, so many different amazing actors and directors to work with. He was right to worry, state officials later said. How do you feel about the final film now that youve seen it? Hansens Den (Alaska State Troopers) (pause) When did you first see this man, Cindy? What made you want to do it? After he was convicted of committing murder, Darla finally let go of her marriage; she promptly divorced her husband, then she and the kids moved back to Arkansas to be with family. Sometime between 71 to 73 Robert began to murder young women. FLOTHE: Either he had opened it or it was already open? Its a over shirt. FRANK ROTHSCHILD (FR): Alright. Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. If it was something technical, of course, it would take a couple more takes, but for the most part, hes the kind of director that filled me in, let me know the mood that he wanted to convey and where he wanted it to land. We deserve to identify ourselves and our many pieces, both personally and professionally. Hansen grew up in Iowa, the son of immigrant bakers. Whether shed been taken to his house or not, in the end these women (or the known victims at least) wound up in the Alaskan wilderness. He is just so punctual, and he always knows his lines, and hes there to get the job done. He found an outlet for his feelings of sexual rejection and frustration through criminalityfirst via smaller displays of power like kleptomania, then graduating to arson, burning down a school bus garage in his hometown of Pocahontas, Iowa in 1960, a crime for which he served 20 months in prison. CINDY: I think he gave me a five. Way down on the floor. CINDY: No. I absolutely adore him. FLOTHE: And contact Cindy at this phone number and this room number And he had cuffed one of my hands, and I was trying to get loose and he pulled out a gun. We are all the same. CINDY: Yep. Have you heard anything about a sequel to Journey 2 The Mysterious Island? FLOTHE: At this time, so I know what youre talking about, cause I have not been in the house, Cindy BC is creating the space for more diverse thoughts and experiences and bringing better solutions to our clients as a result, she adds. FLOTHE: I wanna show you six pictures, Cindy, and the person that were talking about may or may not be in here. The serial killer wasnt even on the suspect list anymore, hed been completely cleared. Ever since I was young, I wanted to be in a role where I could play a prostitute or a drug addict, because its nice to be able to portray someone who is so far from you, which I love. FLOTHE: There is a kind of lightish scar there on your If his social life hadnt been bad enough, he never could find much solace at home, either. CINDY: Tons FLOTHE: Do you remember how he was dressed on Sunday? This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. "He will not be missed," said Frank Rothschild, the assistant district attorney who tried the case. FLOTHE: And what color were his boots? CINDY: Uh huh. FLOTHE: Can you describe it a little bit more to me? I actually shot that before I filmed this (The Frozen Ground) interestingly enough. The go-to source for comic book and superhero movie fans. Anchorage's jail is one of the state's only correctional facilities with a medical unit. (sound of paper being torn off a tablet) Purchase Butcher, Baker, Your email address will not be published. In order to keep their witness close, the state trooper and his wife befriended the young survivor, then Glenn reached out to the FBI. It must also be mentioned that she and the children were constantly insulted and belittled by Robert, and it wouldnt be surprising to learn that he was physically abusive; there may have been some trauma bonding there as well. FLOTHE: Hmm. Being authentic creates the space for diversity of thought and means drawing on experiences that fall outside the box. FLOTHE: Did he approach you or did you approach him? Flothe (Sep 27, 1983) Cindy Paulson talks about Robert Hansen CINDY: (Inaudible) gave the gentleman my telephone number and asked him to call me. I was kinda trippin I really thought (inaudible) FLOTHE: Um hmm. That was everywhere in the whole In the basement there was fish, there was wolf skin, there was stuffed animals everywhere. It was just shocking and disturbing. He had rolled the window down and I opened the door and I sat down and I talked to him. You enjoy my work and would like to read exclusive articles, you can join my Patreon for as little as $3! CINDY: They look the same. There was this aha moment that there are a lot of people like me within the company. One night she picked up a small, skinny client with a pock-marked face who wore glasses and spoke with a stutter. or debate this issue live on our message boards. Feb 12, 2023. And, uh, I called back to her the next the next day or some oth or day or two afterwards. Cause that was the smallest he had. At an APD station, She explains to detectives that she was abducted and repeatedly raped. Okay, she was standing there and I was driving down the street and she waved a little bit and so forth and I pulled up there and talked with her. CINDY: Um I think it was around six. Several months later, police with search warrants went through Hansen's home, finding enough evidence to eventually charge him with four murders. But when Cindy reached out to the police, they believed Hansen's story, which was again backed up by his powerful friends. CINDY: The Buick Century. Hansen later became one of the first prisoners at the newly opened Spring Creek Correctional Center, where he had remained until this year. A mousy, seemingly easy-natured family man, Hansen admitted to killing 17 woman and raping another 30 over a dozen years in the 1970s and 1980s. CINDY: Nope. Robert had been in the habit of keeping a souvenir from most of his hunting sessions, whether it be wild game or women. Cindy Paulson was Neighborhood All-Star on July 14. There was a bullet hole in the floor. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. FLOTHE: So it had a longer barrel than FLOTHE: Did you give him the room number too? So he shows up Sunday night, then. CINDY: Theres no trees in the front yard. I mean, bills, or did he just give you the change? CINDY: Um hmm. FLOTHE: Oh and you saw a sign that said Dead End? When his wife, Darla Marie Henrichsen Hensen, and their children were home (they visited family in Arkansas quite often) its believed that Robert would simply skip taking his victim home altogether. Previously I would avoid the conversation about my significant other, she says. Hansens Truck & Datsun Close-up (copyright Leland E. Hale). The one person who really seemed to have believed Cindy and became determined to stop this killer was a state trooper by the name of Glenn Flothe. Hudgens: It depended on the scene. The website seems to belong to the author of the book which inspired the aforementioned Hollywood movie, his name is Leland E. Hale. He intended to do the same with Cindy on June 13, 1983. https://lelandhale.com/butcherbaker/wordpress/2017/09/08/robert-hansen-graves-along-knik/. Identifying and finding Hansen's weapon cache would prove essential to making the murder case against the " Butcher, Baker ." He said cause he used to work on the slopes and that he would come down and spend money for a girl and go to her room for ten or fifteen minutes. I didnt know, there was, uh I I I couldnt see her that night cause it was during the week and Im running my bakery and I start there at 1:00 in the morning and, uh, she give me a phone number there for her at one of the motels. FLOTHE: OK. And when he pulled up, did you just go get in the car, or did you talk to him 17-year-old Cindy Paulson ran away from Hansen in 1983 as he was trying to load her into his plane and "take her out to his cabin," presumably a euphemism for the vacant Alaskan wilderness where he gunned down his victims. Glenn Flothe, AST. FLOTHE: OK. Hansens House, Old Harbor Road (copyright Leland E. Hale). OK, well he was taking me from being downstairs to the airport, to go get in his plane, the seat was not in the back seat, it was in the trunk, cause he kept going from the trunk carrying things to fit in the airplane. Handle was brown. Cindy I notice that you are visibly upset and have tears and crying. FLOTHE: What did the gun look like? Thats not all he said, of course. Now a bad childhood doesnt excuse cold blooded murder, of course, but it can help shed light on how some people are capable of committing atrocities such as these while the majority of us are not. I looked in the back, OK, there was like a you know how seats in front have covers theyre metal? This is Installment Four of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. CINDY: Uh huh. She gave me an extremely solid foundation and told me her earliest memories that she had until where she is to this day. He takes Paulson to a hospital and her clothes are kept for a rape Kit. You see, when we was driving I observed everything. My wife and family were down in Arkansas visiting her folks places and, um, I had met her the first time up town. FLOTHE: Did you get into his car, or did he just get out or what? And we got to the house and he drug me downstairs to the as soon as you walk in theres a carpet to the right. This actually wasnt an uncommon thing for parents to do during this time period, plenty of us lefties in past generations were forced to conform, but apparently this deeply scarred this young man. FLOTHE: Where did you go when you did it in the car? It turned into a cat and mouse chase. He used it to stab her in the back, he said. And he was very kind and giving as an actor, as well as John. In this installment, Cindy talks about and proves her observational powers, in this case related to Robert Hansen's house on Old Harbor Road. CINDY: No. And I said, Fine, no problem.. FLOTHE: OK. By the time hed caught up, Cindy had flagged down a passing motorist; this good samaritan drove the teen to a nearby hotel room, and he promptly notified the Alaskan police. And it had a long barrel (turning of pages) like Figure 4 or (pause) Figure 2. Investigators have said that in some instances Hansen would rape the women but return them to Anchorage, warning them not to contact authorities. In the film inspired by true events, Hudgens character forms an unlikely partnership with Alaska State Trooper, Sgt. See if theres anyone in here that you might recognize. The Butcher Baker passed away of natural causes in August of 2014, he lived to be 75 years old. FLOTHE: About how long did you have contact with him on Friday? This led to her becoming known by many as 'Horseshoe Harriet' within the state's medical examiner's office. And he fuckin had a tan or an Army green tan coat or Army green And boots. Your email address will not be published. CINDY: Uh huh. You can listen to the podcast of this interview here. CINDY: Yeah, but then again one seat looks the same. "My gosh, she is running naked and in handcuffs on the streets of Anchorage scared to death," Rothschild recalled of the scene. 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